Marrow Masters

Who Are You After Transplant? Meet Survivor Adam Claxton

Episode Notes

In this episode of Marrow Masters, we talk with Adam Claxton, a British acute myeloid leukemia (AML) survivor who was diagnosed in 2024 and received a transplant in December 2024. He shares what early survivorship really feels like, especially the part no one prepares you for. Once treatment slows down, there is a gap between being a patient and figuring out who you are in the world again. Adam explains that around the 100 day mark, he felt dropped out of the system and forced to ask where he fit, what had changed, and who he was becoming after transplant.

We also discuss graft versus host disease (GVHD) and how Adam reframes it. He calls it the price he pays for leukemic protection. That shift in perspective helps him see chronic GVHD not only as a complication, but also as evidence that the donor cells are doing their job. He is honest that it can be difficult physically and mentally, but he chooses to view it as part of survival and a sign that his body is being protected.

A major focus of the conversation is mindset. Adam talks about mindset as something we have to work on daily, just like updating a device. He believes our thoughts shape how we feel, behave, and respond, and that mental habits matter just as much as physical recovery. He also opens up about relapse, calling it an even harder battle than the initial diagnosis. What helps him move through it is staying connected to his reasons for going on, including his family, his purpose, and his desire to help more people with his voice and experience.

The episode also looks at faith over fear. Adam says both fear and faith still take you through the day, so he would rather choose the path that gives him hope. That same thinking connects to what he calls the reset after transplant. He realized he could not simply return to the same life, work, and identity he had before cancer. His priorities had changed, and so had his sense of purpose. Instead of trying to recover the old version of himself, he began building a new one.

On a practical level, Adam shares advice about routines, mindfulness, exercise, social media boundaries, and finding joy again in simple things. One of his best suggestions is to go back to the things you loved doing around age 12, because those activities often reconnect you with peace, play, and presence. He also speaks warmly about the importance of support, especially from his wife and children, while reminding us that caregivers carry their own emotional burden too.

By the end, Adam leaves listeners with a clear message. Survivors need to be kinder to themselves, own their stories, and start sharing what they have learned. His closing affirmation says it best: we can, we will, we must.

More: Adam's Book, Daddy's Magic Blood, on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Daddys-Magic-Blood-story-healing/dp/B0GLGXHGW6

Thanks to this season's sponsors, Incyte and Sanofi.

(00:00) Intro
(01:52) The gap after treatment and early survivorship
(03:52) Why survivorship can feel harder than treatment
(07:24) Mindset and daily mental conditioning
(10:23) Handling relapse and staying connected to purpose
(13:20) Faith over fear
(15:31) The post transplant identity reset
(23:19) Social media, support, and emotional boundaries
(26:50) The role of family and caregiver support
(29:12) What survivors need more of
(32:28) Final affirmation: We can, we will, we must

Episode Transcription

[Music playing]

Voiceover (00:01):

Welcome to Marrow Masters Season 20, sponsored by Sanofi and Insight. This season focuses on survivorship after a bone marrow, stem cell, or CAR-T transplant and what that entails.

We'll be talking with a variety of speakers this season, who will share their experiences, advice, coping mechanisms, updates and tips to enjoy life to the fullest, even if life looks a little different.

The National Bone Marrow Transplant Link, established in 1992, strives to help patients, caregivers, and families cope with the psychosocial challenges of transplant, from diagnosis through survivorship. Here's your host, Executive Director of the NBMT link, Peggy Burkhard.

Peggy Burkhard (00:40):

Well, hello everyone. So today we welcome Adam Claxton. Adam is a survivor of AML, who was diagnosed in 2024 and transplanted in December of 2024. He's going to share his experiences.

So, I have to tell you, when I met Adam, one of the really neat things about him is how he wants to truly help others in everything he does, especially as it pertains to finding your new identity in early survivorship.

I also want to brag for a second. Adam, a dad, also wrote a book called Daddy's Magic Blood, again, to help others explain this to young children, and we will share that in the show notes. Welcome Adam, and thank you so much for being with us today. We have so much to talk about.

Adam Claxton (01:26):

Hi, Peggy. Thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here, and if I can do something that's going to make a difference to what people are going through and experiencing, then that's me being fulfilled.

Peggy Burkhard (01:40):

Well, I know you will. So, Adam, let's talk about your early survivorship so that we can help others better understand what life looks like beyond treatment. Let's talk about the gap after treatment.

Adam Claxton (01:52):

Yeah, so the gap after treatment was something that they don't prepare you for; they don't really tell you about. It's something you stumble across in your own recovery. And the one thing that stuck out most was the gap between where you are.

You're not a patient anymore, but where are you and who are you back in the world as before cancer? Where do you stand? Where do you fit? And for me, it was around the 100 days after transplant.

If you're in hospital, you're having regular checks, there's lots going on all the time. You have a 100-day celebration, a bone marrow biopsy, all is good and you just feel like you're dropped out of the system, I guess. And I'm in the UK, so this is my experience with how it works over here.

And you are working out like, “Who am I? What am I? What am I here for?” The world that I knew before has changed, it's evolved, but whilst you are going through that cancer battle, your journey, your experience, the world still goes on and your life takes a massive … goes off a beaten track for a while.

So, you are looking to see where you fit in again, it's really hard. And I think for me, being a mindset coach and doing what I do for a living anyway, I had that awareness to work out what it might be and how to get myself back onto some path.

But I guess for others, it's just another part of the journey where it's like, “Whoa, what the hell is this? I was not expecting this.” No one prepares you for this.

Peggy Burkhard (03:48):

Wow, the survivorship can be harder than the treatment, correct?

Adam Claxton (03:52):

Absolutely.

Peggy Burkhard (03:53):

So, Adam, I know you're in the UK and love your accent, and we're so thrilled to have you. I'm guessing it's very similar in the United States as well, and really globally this feeling after transplant. So, I wanted to ask you about your experiences and thoughts with graft-versus-host disease.

When we first spoke, you called GVHD, “the price I pay for leukemic protection.” I have thought about that so many times, what an uplifting reference. Can you tell us more about that?

Adam Claxton (04:24):

Yeah, so graft-versus-host disease is something that we all hear about. Some will show very soon after transplant, some don't or won't, or it can come on whenever. And again, it's something where clinicians and consultants, they like to see it because it shows that there's evidence of the donor cells working.

And the first part for me, because I had my transplant, I didn't have any graft-versus-host, and they were okay because my bloods were good and everything else was going in the right direction. But after the relapse and then DLI, that's when I started experiencing graft-versus-host.

And I'll never forget going to clinic with (you can't really see it) markings on my face and my body and my consultant celebrated. Because he was like, “I'm so happy to see graft-versus-host on you because it's a visual of the cells working.”

And like you said, from a mental health perspective, from a confidence perspective, it's a bit weird to look at. And I'm lucky, I've got chronic graft-versus-host, and I'm lucky that I'm not in pain with it. It irritates me sometimes. My skin is a little bit different to what it used to be. And yeah, the whole “price you pay for leukemic protection” when you apply that to, that's what my graft-versus-host is, it takes the sadness away.

Where I'm actually, I'm grateful that I have graft-versus-host because it shows that the chimerism is taking effect. The cells are doing what they should be. My body is more protected with my brother's cells running through me. So, again, my brother was my donor.

And yeah, I think that there's perspectives in how we see things differently or how I see things differently really helps me get through situations which others may find a bit tougher. And I know I'm lucky that mine was only mild, but it could be worse.

And my other organs are okay because I know that it can get really excited and cause havoc to other organs in our bodies. So, yeah, graft-versus-host, is it bad? No. Can it be bad? Yes, it can be bad, but I think it's ultimately the sacrifice that we pay for what we've been through.

Another consultant said it's like a battle scar, and it's like, “Yeah, I’ve got this stuff and I've been through some stuff.”

Peggy Burkhard (07:11):

What a great attitude to have about it. I really appreciate that. So, Adam, this blends itself so nicely to the next point. You are just extraordinary and you look great by the way (laughs).

Adam Claxton (07:23):

Thank you.

Peggy Burkhard (07:24):

Your career has involved helping others as a mindset coach in the corporate setting and now, in the cancer world. And we all know that so much of this experience involves a strong mental attitude that you're showing us you have. Tell us more how you manage this important element of it all.

Adam Claxton (07:42):

For me, mindset is so important, and unfortunately, it's something that we can't force someone to make a change. Mindset for me is something that I study every day through podcasts, through reading, through always upgrading my awareness and my knowledge on how we think.

Because essentially, how we think and our thoughts controls how we feel, how we behave, how we act, and then ultimately, the results that we get. So, it's always an upgrading system that we go through.

And the difference with people in tech is if you woke up in the morning and your phone had an update that was due, you wouldn't think twice about updating because you know that it needs it. It upgrades, you get better, your phone will get better, your device will have better tech on it. It'll be faster and quicker. But us as humans, we tend to not want to do that.

I like staying in 1996 [Laughter] because what I knew then was good. But we've always got to improve ourselves every day because as the world changes and evolves, so do we. And what you don't want to do is be left behind. So, doing something physical, mental, spiritual, emotional, daily has really helped me through my treatment.

And I guess again, I'm just lucky that I had that awareness before. Because some people, I've seen it in hospital myself, where they start to make changes almost when it's too late. And you're sitting there going, you should have been doing this for a very long time before.

You can't just change the way that you think overnight, it's a process. It's like learning to ride a bike. You don't just grasp it, you have to try, then you'll be tested, then you try again and again and again and again. So, it'd always be a work in progress.

And we see it in the world now where we talk about mental health and what's good for us. And some people will go to the gym and they'll feel physically good. But actually, if you're not aware of like, “Why am I thinking like this,” you will never reach the aspirations in life that you're chasing.

So, it is really important to look at your mindset, to invest some time. And you don't have to spend much. There's so much around that you can have access to. But start there because when you start changing the way that you think and feel, you'll notice that the things that you think and feel about will also change.

Peggy Burkhard (10:23):

And become habits. Good habits. Let's talk about relapse for a minute. How have you handled the mental part of that?

Adam Claxton (10:32):

The relapse was really personal. I think the initial diagnosis came as a shock and I didn't really know much about AMR leukemia. Just that this was the path that I was going to go along. You go through intense treatment, time away from the family. It's hard. And you have a lot to change and think about all in a very quick succession of time.

It's important to go through the treatment, but it's also scary because your whole world just gets turned upside down in a flash. And going through transplant. Yeah, it was brutal. The chemo was really harsh, really intense for recovery.

You get through the hundred days starting to get back into work and accepting this new version of me, then all of a sudden, your world is just pulled apart again. And that was probably the bigger battle then was relapse.

“Now what does it look like? What is my treatment plan? What options have I got? What is my chance of getting through this?” But again, applying that attitude, the mindset, the habits of being back in hospital and finding that routine again, it's something that you don't always want to do.

But again, when you connect it to a why, so, “Why am I going through this?” and not, “What am I fighting for?” I don't like the whole fighting and battle. But “What reasons do I need to hold onto the most?” And that's where you look at your goal like, “What do I want in life?” I was like, “I've not helped enough people yet. The world hasn't heard my voice.”

Those are the changes. And then you've got your family and your children and my wife, and all of those extra reasons.

Peggy Burkhard (12:39):

Yeah. Good reasons (laughs).

Adam Claxton (12:41):

Yeah, they make the bad days better when you've got something to hold onto. And again, I've seen in hospital and experienced people that have gone, “I'm done. I've got grandchildren, I've seen the world.” And they're more accepting of how things will then go.

I've seen some things happen that you don't really want to. But you know that that's their journey and this is my journey, and there's a reason why I'm still here. And you take all of that with you and you go, “Okay, something's looking after me.”

Peggy Burkhard (13:20):

Wow. We're hearing your voice for sure. And we're thrilled to have you here with us today. Adam, let's talk about faith over fear. What have you learned and what insights can you share that will, I know, resonate with others going through this?

Adam Claxton (13:35):

For me, we actually used faith over fear quite a lot during this whole experience that we've been through. And ultimately, I think it's down to choice. Do you stay scared and live in fear? Or do you step into the unknown and choose faith and that belief system of going, “I am going to be okay?”

We all have days in our normal lives where you might have a situation that you might not want to do. You can be afraid of doing it and it will impact how you're thinking, how you're feeling. Or you can have faith that everything's going to be okay and you are still going to get through that same day regardless of what path you're going to go down to.

So, sometimes why would you not choose to have the faith knowing that say for example, you will get to the end of Wednesday or be afraid of getting to the end of Wednesday, but still get to the end of Wednesday.

So, faith over fear is if you stay where you are, nothing's going to change. And if you do take that jump, the leap of faith and just trust that something greater is going to look after you, then surely, it's worth that risk. And just having that belief that I'm going to be okay.

And it was something again that was applied very early. My first consultant put his hand on my wife and said, “He's going to be okay.” And it stuck and we just went, “Going to be okay.” There's a saying that “Tough times don't last but tough people do.”

And day by day, step by step, sometimes minute by minute, hour by hour, you have a challenge that you have to get through and you get through it, and you go, “Okay, I'm done. I'm clear through that situation. Now, we go again.”

Peggy Burkhard (15:31):

So inspirational. So, Adam, the shift in identity post-transplant, you call it a reset. And this comes up again and again as a continuous issue for recently transplanted individuals. Tell us more about the reset.

Adam Claxton (15:46):

So, the reset for me was what I noticed again around that 100 days, where you step back into the world and I was like, “Right, I'm going to get back, business back moving forward again.” And the first thing I did was reached out to people that I'd been in touch with before all of this had happened.

Companies that I was doing work for and I either had no response or actually what I needed to help them with they no longer needed help with.

So, the reset came from there where it was like, first of all, you feel this “I'm not wanted, I'm not needed.” Which isn't true. It's, “Who are you now?” It is more about who are you going to become from this situation?

So, I had to go and reassess. So, my niche before with my business had changed because I changed. It wasn't about the niche changing, it was about my life, my passion, the things that I want to help people with has changed because of what I've just been through.

But first of all, you had to identify all of those. So, for reset and I know like stem-cell transplants, you say that you're born again and things are different. So, it's like if I'm born again, then I've got an opportunity now to do things over completely different to how I did before.

And if you are going back to a job that you didn't like to do, why are you doing that? So, it was time to change and use those experiences to help move forward.

Peggy Burkhard (17:25):

You make me think of a story. There's a woman I know who unfortunately lost her daughter. And she was a hygienist before her daughter had passed, and afterwards, she quit. We got to know her and she started a foundation in her daughter's name.

This was years ago, and she said, “I can't listen to people complain when I clean their teeth about their everyday mundane problems after everything I've been through. I need a reset and I need to make a difference in the name of donor families.” Their daughter became a donor.

So, I so know what you mean, and I was a lot younger when I worked in that job and heard that story, but it always stayed with me that she needed a reset to really get through the rest of her life.

Adam Claxton (18:14):

Yeah, it makes so much sense. Your purpose completely changes even for partners or parents of the patient. Me and my wife, we literally had the same sort of conversation this morning talking about her work and she's gone back to work, but it doesn't feel like it used to.

Because we've just gone through this massive life-altering disease where things have changed massively. We've been impacted. And her passion for what she does isn't setting her soul on fire anymore.

[Laughter]

And I think that's something that's really important with everybody, is we have to do what sets our soul on fire. You have to find that reason of like, “Why have we just been through this? What good can …” Because good things do come from these situations.

It's learning about how you're going to align yourself with what's next because things do massively change. And I completely get the lady you mentioned how she was bored of hearing people complaining about things because what she's just been through, she's like, “Really?” Like, “This isn't fulfilling anymore.”

Whereas before the experience that she went through, she was okay with that. And I think for all of us, everybody involved in a cancer journey will have … a massive part of their life will change. There's no denying it and it's how you move on from that.

Peggy Burkhard (19:50):

Absolutely, Adam. Let's get practical. So, day to day, you've got kids, you've got a wife, you're working, any practical advice you want to share with us?

Adam Claxton (20:03):

Again, for people that have just been through transplant, in fact, everybody, we need to have good daily routines. We need to be mindful of how much time we're on our phone. We need to be mindful of who we associate ourselves with because people do pull us down.

We need to be present, to learn how to be present in the moment because if you're anxious about the future, you're not living here now today. If you're living in the past and there's depression, you're not living in today. And it is being able to control everything and bring it into this present moment.

What you do for that, I don't know what all the answers are, but there are many things that we can do. Some will exercise, some will go walking, some will sing, some will dance, some will bake cakes, some will get creative.

And one of the biggest tips I've got is go back and do the things you used to do when you were about 12 years old. Because you are young, you are free, you are spirited. And go and do that again. So, whether that's coloring, knitting, baking, and notice how you feel when you're in that state.

Peggy Burkhard (21:25):

I love that.

Adam Claxton (21:27):

What does your mind tell you? Do you feel peaceful? Do you feel happy? And those feelings are what you want to do. Does it bring you joy? We all need to have more joy. And so, for those that are parents, you sit at the table; you start drawing and coloring with the children. The children have got bored; they've gone off. How long do you sit at the table coloring for?

[Laughter]

Because most people go, “Where are my kids?” (Laughs). As you're coloring away. And you actually stick your own pictures on the fridge because they're that good.

Peggy Burkhard (22:03):

(Laughs) Show those kids up, right?

Adam Claxton (22:05):

Yeah, absolutely.

Peggy Burkhard (22:07):

That's great.

Adam Claxton (22:08):

So, yeah, it's about being mindful. And in the beginning, it's learning how to be mindful. It's a process. It's like training a muscle. The more you train it, the stronger it becomes. So, if you can be more present for five minutes of your day, next week it might be seven minutes, 10 minutes, an hour.

And it's really important, especially in the recovery after transplant, because your body is weak. Everything needs to be reconditioned again. I remember going back to the gym because that's what I used to enjoy doing before.

I went back to the gym, started lifting weights that I used to kind of warm up at. I couldn't, just couldn't move them. And again, that was demoralizing, but then you have to accept that you've just been through war and you have to start again. And you learn to love this new version of you.

Peggy Burkhard (23:03):

Wow, that's really great. And not beat yourself up because you can't do what you used to do. Mark your progress. Rebuild.

Adam Claxton (23:12):

Yeah. It's not about what you used to do. It's about who you're becoming and what you can do now.

Peggy Burkhard (23:19):

How do you control the social media? Do you have any tips on — I see the benefit of those in isolation, the camaraderie on some of the Facebook pages, and ours too, our linked Facebook page. But can it be too much? How do you feel about that?

Adam Claxton (23:38):

I think you've got to, one, recognize how do you feel when you come away from it. Does it bother you? Does it play with your mind? Does it impact how you're thinking and feeling? If so, then you need to stop, reassess, and learn how to manage it wisely.

For me, who does a lot of business through social media, it's recognizing, “Am I doom scrolling or passively scrolling?” If that's a yes, then I need to get rid of it. And one thing for me during the relapse was I removed TikTok because it was no good.

You can watch one thing after another. And the algorithm picks up what you watch. So, a lot of my stuff was around AML. It was around people's situations. And you end up … you absorb that energy, and you take it on board. So, I deleted it. Do I miss it? No, I don't.

And actually then, because you stop being on TikTok, that time you then got to do something else, like write gratitude, to go and meditate, to be mindful, to do an extra half-an-hour of coloring a day.

You're trading a habit for a habit. You stop doing something and you'll find something else to start doing. So, for me, my social media is more business-related. So, I know when I go on it, “Don't be passively scrolling. Go do what you've got to do. Do the post. Get out of the group.” Then later on, I'll check. Time management.

Peggy Burkhard (25:16):

Yes. I've even learned that in my own life. I spent about just a few minutes a day checking in on Facebook or whatever, Instagram, just to see what's going on with people I care about. But it's a rabbit hole if you let it be. And I made a choice a long time ago to not let it be. And I've been happier for it.

So, I get that. But I do see the benefits for those that just have a question, and you see so many wonderful answers sometimes. That support is incredible. So, I guess it's just enough, but not too much.

Adam Claxton (25:50):

Yeah. And for me with Facebook groups around blood cancer, around AML, around bone marrow transplants. It was about “What is my role within this group?” Because there are so many things which can be negative, they can be upsetting; they can be triggering.

And for me, it was recognizing, “Okay, this is what I'm going to post in these groups. I'm going to be the light in somebody else's dark. I'm going to provide information that might help someone that is seeking what I am going to say today.”

And most of the time, a lot of my posts are around my own experiences. So, it's something that I've experienced done in a way that someone might not be able to put a name to post-traumatic stress. But when I explain how I feel it, what I do with it, that's when it hits and sticks to people, and they go, “That's what I needed to hear today.”

Peggy Burkhard (26:50):

So, Adam, I wanted to ask you about your support system. You've mentioned your wife and your children. Tell us how important that is and any tips on that.

Adam Claxton (27:00):

Yeah, my wife is incredible. I'm so, so lucky. And we actually weren't husband and wife before this started. So, we've only been married just over two months now, nearly three months.

Peggy Burkhard (27:15):

Well, congratulations (laughs).

Adam Claxton (27:17):

Thank you. Having someone as a rock is amazing, I'm so blessed. But also appreciate how tough it has been for her. Because again, it's part of a story that isn't always talked about, is, “How is the partner of a patient?”

Because it's all about me, I'm the poorly one. I'm the one who's gone through all this treatment. “Oh, it must be bad for you,” or “poor Adam.” And it's really recognizable that a lot of people don't always ask how she is, or for some, how he is, depending on situation.

But we've taken it on, we've seeked help when we needed to, we've had each other. There are some things that I will never understand fully about how she's feeling, and there's some things that she will never fully understand about how I'm feeling.

Because two people can go through the same experience, but how they felt are completely different because my feelings were different to how she was. And it's trying to find that balance in between where we get it and we understand it.

Let them feel those feels. And ultimately, try and process this together to move forward. And again, with the children as well, which is one of the reasons it inspired me with the book, is to help families explain a diagnosis, explain what that process looks like.

Because our children were different ages, and the support that was out there wasn't what we needed. Because how do you tell a three-year-old, an eight-year-old, and an 11-year-old when their perspectives on the world are completely different?

Peggy Burkhard (29:07):

Wow, I ordered your book. I love it (laughs) by the way.

Adam Claxton (29:10):

Thank you.

Peggy Burkhard (29:12):

And it's a gift, that's for sure. So, Adam, what do you think survivors really need more of?

Adam Claxton (29:19):

Being kind to themselves. It's going to take longer than what you think it will take. They need to work on their mindset every day. Talk about how you're feeling. Share your experience. I think one thing that survivors should do is own their story.

When you help somebody else heal, there's a bit of you that heals yourself too. And again, it's not something that we're all programmed to do or want to do because it takes you back to that sort of faith over fear.

Some people are scared to talk out because they're afraid of being judged or laughed at or nobody will understand our stories. We're all unique. We've all been on same but different journeys. And it's these experiences that are one, going to help others; two, they're going to help us; but three, they're going to help shape how clinicians, medical see the other side of a cancer journey.

And having that patient perspective is so important because we know what chemo tastes like. We know what it feels like to see it on paper, and to see and hear of what people might go through is completely different to someone telling you, “That's what it's like.”

Don't be quiet. We've all got a story in us, and it defines us. We can really make ourselves who we want to be. Because we've one, got the second opportunity, and two, we see life differently. Three, we've been through things that not everybody will ever go through. And we can actually educate and impact quite a lot of people with that story that we have.

Peggy Burkhard (31:06):

Yes, indeed. And I think that you turned your experience into something meaningful. Any advice for other survivors on how to do that? I know we've covered a lot already. Is there anything else you want to add?

Adam Claxton (31:19):

Just start. Because people go, “Oh, how have you got so good at this?” And it's, this is my path, this is my journey. This is years in the making. It's something that I wanted to do. I always like challenging myself on doing the things that are scary.

And this journey I've been on, it's really scary. But you have to do it, or I had to do it. Just start by putting a post out there, by journaling. If you're in Facebook groups, start being a voice. Start writing down or sharing your experience with other people.

Because you can't learn this in an education system. You can only learn our human experiences by being a human and experiencing them. The difference then is how you apply that sort of knowledge to share it and to help other people that are on that same path as you. They're just further behind.

Peggy Burkhard (32:20):

Sure. Well, I think you have done that today, Adam. This is really fantastic. Any parting words?

Adam Claxton (32:28):

Parting words? We can, we will, we must. That's something that we wrote in hospital, like an affirmation. It was on the board above my bed. We can do anything that we put our minds to. We will because we have goals and visions, and we must because we have to.

Peggy Burkhard (32:50):

Fantastic. I don't think we could say anything else after that. That kind of says it all, doesn't it?

Adam Claxton (32:57):

Yeah, and it's something that I've applied daily, I still apply daily. Even though I'm here now looking good, there is another complication that I've been diagnosed with. We're in the early parts of that. But it doesn't stop me. There's still more to the story, and that's what I'm here for, to help others.

Peggy Burkhard (33:22):

Wow. Well, I wish you all the best. I'm always a phone call away. And really, really appreciate you, Adam. I know that there was just so much advice here that I'm going to take away in my life, too. And you are a gift. Thank you so much for being with us today.

Adam Claxton (33:42):

Thank you so much for having me. And I'd also like to thank the National Bone Marrow Transplant Link for everything that you do, the awareness that you make, and create an amazing podcast like this.

Peggy Burkhard (33:54):

Thank you, Adam.

Adam Claxton (33:55):

Thank you.

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This has been the Marrow Masters Podcast. Please share this episode with someone you think would benefit from it. And don't miss future episodes of our show. Follow Marrow Masters for free on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you're listening right now.

Marrow Masters is produced for the National Bone Marrow Transplant Link. Established in 1992, the NBMT Link strives to help patients, caregivers, and families cope with the psychosocial challenges of transplant from diagnosis through survivorship.

The Marrow Masters Podcast is produced by JAG Podcast Productions, online at jagpodcastproductions.com.